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Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 01:04:53 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @kat done. it should keep the user out of the public timline, right? i never tried it before, i hope it works. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 01:13:41 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @shevek sandboxing just means he's just out of the public timeline. people should not have to see the n-word there. -
mmn (mmn)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 02:05:35 CET mmn It also means the user can't cause email notifications to be sent out when @ mentioning etc. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 02:07:47 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @mmn ok, but what is silencing then? -
mmn (mmn)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 02:18:49 CET mmn @hannes2peer Silencing essentially disabling the account from any new activities. I think a user can't even login if it is silenced. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 02:23:26 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @mmn hm, you're right. we need a softer sandbox, that just excludes the user from the public timeline. -
mmn (mmn)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 02:52:06 CET mmn @hannes2peer a "mute" (and then try to rename "silence" -> "disable"?) -
mcscx (mcscx)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 03:31:36 CET mcscx @hannes2peer i think you shouldnt silence or sandbox a longtime user who contributed 100s of good posts because of 1 or 2 inappropriate post -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 03:44:17 CET oldsimsa0account @mcscx @hannes2peer Seconded. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 03:53:25 CET oldsimsa0account @drymer Yes, but beside dislike of the word, there may simply be laws @hannes2peer has to abide to re defamation or hate speech. cc @mcscx -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 04:01:25 CET oldsimsa0account @drymer I don't know the laws in Sweden that might apply. @hannes2peer @mcscx -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 04:08:32 CET oldsimsa0account @drymer I share your stance on @ignurante Never had any reason to think about him otherwise. I find this all overblown. @hannes2peer @mcscx -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 04:09:12 CET oldsimsa0account @drymer I think you're right & that @hannes2peer may have erred. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 04:25:11 CET oldsimsa0account @drymer I guess that's why @mcscx spoke in favour of @ignurante ... -
ignurante (ignurante)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 08:22:07 CET ignurante @hannes2peer why don't you read my whole timeline before figuring out what happened? oldsimsa0account repeated this. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:35:19 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @mcscx @simsa0 i thought sandboxing just meant you'd be excluded from the public timeline, which is not a big deal. but apparently it also > -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:35:35 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @mcscx @simsa0 > means that emails notifications are not send when the user mentions you. that's not what i had in mind. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:43:58 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer [cc @mcscx ] I'm not sure that sandboxing even w/ your intended purpose would have been reasonable. Perhaps you should have > -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:45:23 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer [cc @mcscx ] > asked him first about how he intended that phras. But I'm even unsre about that. Perhaps you should lift the > -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:46:12 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer [cc @mcscx ] > "ban" after some time ...And state more explicitly that there are no-nos on Quitter, at best in TOS. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 12:59:47 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @ignurante i unsandboxed you since i only intended to exclude you from the public timeline, not stop make email notifications your posts -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:06:50 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @ignurante although if you keep using the n-word i'll sandbox you again. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:15:52 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer Ouch. Please make explicit in the TOS what is allowed & what not. Please consider that you're restricitng freedom of speech. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:17:14 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @simsa01 it's the _public timeline_ we're talking about nothing else -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:18:43 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @orquienpatines this has nothing at all to do about punishment. see my last couple of posts. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:20:39 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer I understand that. I disagree w/ your decision nonetheless because it bans certain words regardless of context. > -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:20:54 CET oldsimsa0account @hannes2peer > I find that problematic. -
mcscx (mcscx)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:21:56 CET mcscx @hannes2peer Don't you think excluding from public timeline is already a quite harsh measure? In fact this is what I consider it to be -
mcscx (mcscx)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:27:00 CET mcscx @orquienpatines yes, and even bettter: "consider their whole behaviour", not just 1 or 2 queets. @hannes2peer -
mcscx (mcscx)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:30:52 CET mcscx @simsa01 And if sth is "not allowed" we should still *warn* the user first, esp a long-time user, before taking admin actions. @hannes2peer -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:34:50 CET oldsimsa0account @mcscx Seconded. And if @hannes2peer is going to be "trigger happy" (a violent term used by military), he should warn in advance. Off now. -
oldsimsa0account (oldsimsa0account)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 13:36:15 CET oldsimsa0account @mcscx re: "trigger happy" > https://quitter.se/notice/3308048 -
luke (luke)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 16:02:56 CET luke @hannes2peer the way I see it is it's your instance so you choose what gets displayed. No justifications needed. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 17:25:43 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @nawi the non censorship part of gnu social is in its decentralised design. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 17:26:41 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @nawi this way we can have a pragmatic approach to the dilemma of keeping our friends safe and don't limit other peoples freedom of speech -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 17:35:27 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @nawi without arguing over definitions, do you have absolutely 0 understanding of the other side (e.g. me) in this? -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 17:44:16 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @nawi but doing so would in your view make us as bad as the system we're fighting? -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 18:07:18 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @drymer "sandboxing" is a bad word for what it does. it just hides the user from the _public timeline_, nothing else. -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 18:07:59 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @drymer (almost. it also disables email notifications, which i wish it didn't) -
Skratterciseterapeutens Leende (hannes2peer)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jan-2015 18:08:42 CET Skratterciseterapeutens Leende @nawi we've always had the intention to write terms of use, but never got around to doing it. i've written it now though. -
luke (luke)'s status on Monday, 26-Jan-2015 11:30:59 CET luke @johnnynull @hannes2peer what I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter what was in the post at all. If Hannes decided to ban everyone whose.. -
luke (luke)'s status on Monday, 26-Jan-2015 11:31:48 CET luke @johnnynull @hannes2peer avatar had a hat in he'd be justified to do so. It's his instance & he can do what he likes. If I don't like it.. -
luke (luke)'s status on Monday, 26-Jan-2015 11:32:10 CET luke @johnnynull @hannes2peer then I can leave. Simple as that.
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