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aqeel (aqeel)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 07:27:10 CET aqeel For a webapp, that should be installable on shared hosting, does it make any sense to go with anything other than PHP? Also, how important is "should be installable on shared hosting" in general these days? -
lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 07:41:03 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @aqeel There are still a lot of people (at least in USA) still using shared hosting, usually with a quick-installer like Fantastico or SimpleScripts. I think #GNU + #Linux, #Apache, #MySQL, #PHP are the only things that are always likely to be available. They tend to have older versions and only upgrade when older version hits EOL, too.
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lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 07:43:02 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @aqeel A few shared hosts claim to support #Rails, too. But I’ve never tried to actually run a Rails app on shared hosting. I doubt shared hosts offer sufficient control or resources, either.
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mmn (mmn)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 07:44:20 CET mmn @aqeel not very. More common with EC2, Docker etc. (anyone who uses shared hosting probably has the knowledge to apt-get install apache2 anyway) -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 07:55:49 CET Temporary Marjolein @mmn my guess is that 98% of people who use shared hosting don't even know what 'apache' *is* let alone 'apt-get'. And on shared hosting SSH (commandline) is only rarely available. lnxw48 (Linux Walt) repeated this. -
lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 08:24:15 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @aqeel @mmn As @mk pointed out, most shared hosting users are absolute newbies. They find an ad somewhere and wind up at $GENERIC_CHEAP_HOST. They click on the quick install and wind up with a #Joomla or #Drupal or #Wordpress. If the devs do a major version change, the quick install may not offer an upgrade (so you can still find some sites using Drupal 5, even though it has been EOL for years.
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lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 08:40:17 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @aqeel I guess the answer is “Who is your target?” If you’re after semi-advanced (know ssh and how to install & configure software from command line) you can use whatever toolset you wish. They’ll install it on their #VPS or choose a #cloud host that offers it.
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aqeel (aqeel)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2015 09:23:57 CET aqeel @lnxw48 @mmn @mk Hmm... Most shared hosting users don't have any idea at all about linux , so I guess that's same pretty much everywhere.
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