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1. robek world (rw)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-2016 22:45:36 CEST robek world

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   Delete facebook
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   • mmn (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2016 08:50:54 CEST mmn

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     @rw Or as I have recently come to calling it: NSA+Facebook.
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   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 19:47:10 CEST zoowar

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     Facebook users are protected from the NSA by the whims of facebook policy. #GnuSocial users are not protected at all.
   • mmn (mmn)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:06:36 CEST mmn

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     @zoowar You're forgetting the right to pseudonymity on !GNUsocial, I believe .)
   • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:12:46 CEST lnxw48 (Linux Walt)

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     @zoowar Protected from surveillance by whims of site admins' policies is true of every site, subject to the depth of the stack that site's admins actually control and the admins' skill. One is likely no worse off because they use GS instead of FB. @mmn
   • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:21:02 CEST lnxw48 (Linux Walt)

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     Actually, based on the breadth and depth of the info FB collects and the number of sites using its data-collection tools, GS users' data is more at risk from FB than from their GS site.
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:22:01 CEST zoowar

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     The clan I joined in Elder Scrolls uses facebook. I was able to create a pseudonym on facebook, it just looks like a real name.
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:24:24 CEST zoowar

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     Your #gnusocial feed/content is public, not subject to the whims of admin/site policy.
   • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:31:49 CEST lnxw48 (Linux Walt)

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     @zoowar True, content is public, but not more important info about you such as the various IP addresses you connect from or your IDcard info or the near complete list of sites you visit.
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:37:08 CEST zoowar

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     https://fresh.federati.net/lnxw48/foaf
   • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:48:08 CEST lnxw48 (Linux Walt)

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     @zoowar FOAF is just a contact list, which used to be public on FB, too. Has that changed?
   • mmn (mmn)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:51:12 CEST mmn

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     @zoowar There's no reason to assume that fake identity will continue to exist, as fake names explicitly go against the #ECLA (end customer license agreement) with #Facebook.
     
     Also, I believe you need to supply a phone number nowadays when registering with Facebook, or didn't you have to do that?
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 20:53:07 CEST zoowar

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     While I haven't looked into facebook policy, I expect that what is collected and shared is documented somewhere and that there are options to opt-out of certain data collection modes. Users may be oblivious to this policy, but that's just humans being human. Also, facebook can stand up to authoritative requests for data because it is well funded and has a deep legal team. I doubt any #gnusocial site could stand up to an authoritative request for data. At least indy doesn't record ip addresses.
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   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 21:01:55 CEST zoowar

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     I created my account several months ago (i.e. very recently). I was not required to provide a verifiable phone number.
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 21:02:52 CEST zoowar

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     I wouldn't know.
   • kat (kat)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 21:54:51 CEST kat

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     @zoowar @lnxw48 the best way to stand up to data requests is not to have it in the first place.  
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   • lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-2016 23:20:18 CEST lnxw48 (Linux Walt)

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     @kat I agree fully.
   • Roland Häder (roland)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2016 18:00:51 CEST Roland Häder

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     @kat @zoowar @lnxw48 I also don't record IP addresses as all access log files are set to /dev/null.
   • Roland Häder (roland)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2016 18:03:23 CEST Roland Häder

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     @mmn #nsabook is shorter and suits more for #facebook coorperating with the #NSA.
   • nds (nds)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2016 18:51:10 CEST nds

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     I pipe my access logs to twitter. ;-)
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   • npze_deprecated_please_unfollow (npze)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2016 23:14:40 CEST npze_deprecated_please_unfollow

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     @nds damn, YOU are the 404 guy!
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