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@lnxw48 federated IM? Is that essentially it?
- clacke repeated this.
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@jim Reading and posting via !XMPP was working here until I upgraded #PHP, which now refuses to accept the #XMPP server's self-signed cert.
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@jim I did think about something like federatibot at jabber dot org, but adding that 3rd-party dependency means that any time they change something, the connection would break and I'd get complaints.
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@cmhobbs @jim I have not had that problem, but most of my ~250 subscriptions are fairly low volume. I also tend to sample, not guzzle.
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@cmhobbs I would suggest getting a separate XMPP account, which you only use as an alternative !gnusocial feed reader ;) (and then have that feed show up with irssi-xmpp instead of generating a phone notification each time) cc: @jim @lnxw48
Maybe the !xmpp plugin should allow setting a specific resource to send to as well, then you wouldn't get the message to your phone at all (except with carbons enabled, but it shouldn't PING) and only to the specified XMPP client (again, like irssi-xmpp etc.)
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@cmhobbs @jim @lnxw48 I still don't understand what xmpp is and y'all have explained it to me about a dozen times LOL
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@jonkulp Remember legacy instant messaging ( AOL's #AIM, Microsoft's MSN Messenger, Mirabilis's #ICQ, Yahoo's Y!Messenger, and so on)? #Jabber / #XMPP starts as a #federated and extensible version of those IM systems, but can also do more. (Google Talk used to be an XMPP service before it became Hangouts.) @jim @cmhobbs
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@jonkulp It does more, but that's the core. (For example, MUCs are like #IRC.)
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That is exactly what #XMPP (née Jabber) is. And GNU Social has a sort of CLI reachable over XMPP.
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@cmhobbs @jonkulp Even most closed source messengers like WhatsApp use the xmpp protocol.
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@jonkulp XMPP is more than federated IM as we think of IM. More like federated message passing. Might as well be between things (buzzword: #IoT) or people or you use it to negotiate realtime audio/video communication.
And it is more reliable (though more bound to authentication) than SMTP, which means that even for IM it fills a space in federated internet communication that e-mail doesn't cover.