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Roland Häder (roland)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 12:21:14 CET Roland Häder I have been using !andsratus for more than a week on a tab borrowed from @dianalace and i'm thankful to her. So #salamat. Why i write is that using #andstatus (and a bit #mustardmod) was very nice. Well, handling of hashtags and remote groups should be added, but that can be done by browser, so no really big issue. Cc @andstatus nice work! :-) -
Roland Häder (roland)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 03:50:31 CET Roland Häder @andstatus management of subscriptions would be a nice feature, too. I always have to use web interface. -
AndStatus (andstatus)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 07:10:31 CET AndStatus @roland AndStatus does have follow/unfollow feature. Unfortunately, following a remote user is not currently supported at a server side, so this is a request to GNU Social developers?!
Do you know of any subscription API, which works at GNU social servers, but is not supported by #AndStatus yet? If yes, please send me links with documentation/examples...Roland Häder likes this.mcscx repeated this. -
lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 07:16:39 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) Roland Häder likes this. -
X11R5 (x11r5)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 21:25:37 CET X11R5 ♻ @roland Feels like i’m always on the web Roland Häder likes this. -
Roland Häder (roland)'s status on Sunday, 15-Feb-2015 21:55:29 CET Roland Häder @andstatus Okay, but you know what I mean? Such you have in #WUI under "Following" and "Followers". -
AndStatus (andstatus)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 17:50:29 CET AndStatus @roland Of course I know :-) But I cannot do this at a client's side only. This is why I'm asking for help from the server side :-) Roland Häder likes this. -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 17:57:05 CET Temporary Marjolein @andstatus so you're suggesting the the 'remote follow' process as implemented in the web interface is not actually supported by the API but (instead) inplemented "directly" in the web GUI? If so, yuk! Then that should definitely be amended. /cc @mmn -
AndStatus (andstatus)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:14:45 CET AndStatus @mk Oops, I could follow you from AndStatus at LoadAverage. Maybe this depends on some server/user setting
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lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:17:36 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @mk @andstatus Was subscribing implemented in !Twitter's #API? If not, that would explain its absence in !GNUSocial. I agree, though, that everything that is possible in the web client should be possible with API clients. (And eventually, the web client can use the API like any other client.) -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:20:23 CET Temporary Marjolein @andstatus well, the instance I'm on has far fewer than 10 users - but I'm following 141, and have 171 followers - see sidebar here: http://oracle.skilledtests.com/mk . So that proves 'remote follow' is indeed possible. I don't know how that relates to server configuration though. -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:24:59 CET Temporary Marjolein @lnxw48 right - one of the things that disturbed me about the Statusnet software was that the web GUI was not actually a client, but 'hardcoded' into the server software. It _should_ be a client. If you need an extra function, first create the API for it, then implement using that API. That's the way it should go, IMO. Maybe it was just 'lack of time' for Evan's team? Though I think the 'API first' approach would in the end save time (but possibly more during maintenance than creation). Roland Häder likes this.AndStatus repeated this. -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:26:17 CET Temporary Marjolein @lnxw48 well, not all of the web client was 'hardcoded' - I meant that some of it was - leading to an inconsistent mix of coding practices. -
lnxw48 (Linux Walt) (lnxw48)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:51:14 CET lnxw48 (Linux Walt) @mk I suspect that this is why Evan made everything API-based with the #PumpIO project, though every client I've tried (web, puma, impeller, andstatus, dianara) is disappointingly limited in ways that make it painful to use, so I suspect the API itself is too limited. -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:56:18 CET Temporary Marjolein @lnxw48 I've never looked at the pump API, so I don't know how limited (or not) it is; but I think Evan wanted a clean start instead of starting with an existing API and then cobbling things onto that. It makes sense, of course, but one has to imagine a lot of use cases to design a good API that is powerful enough. And it's a fact of life that programmers are often surprised by *how* people actually use (or attempt to use) their product... so designing an API isn't all that easy. -
aqeel (aqeel)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 18:57:14 CET aqeel @lnxw48 The only issue I've faced with pumpa is you don't get notification when you someone comment on a post you commented on, but then again, I am not a very heavy social network user. -
sazius (sazius)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 19:03:32 CET sazius @aqeel That's not Pumpa's fault, though. It's a problem in pump.io. If you comment via Pumpa people get notified, though, due to a cludgy work-around I've made :-) -
aqeel (aqeel)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 19:17:48 CET aqeel @sazius Wasn't blaming pumpa, was replying to @lnxw48 that this is the only limitation I have faced in pump.io, everything else works as I expect it to. -
sazius (sazius)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 19:32:36 CET sazius @aqeel Ah, sorry, should have checked context :-) We've discussed some fixed for that problem to pump.io itself, but hasn't happened yet. -
mmn (mmn)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 19:32:52 CET mmn @mk Yeah, this is something I want to fix and I just have to understand some parts of the API better to know if I should fix it, extend it or simply hack in some support that @andstatus can use and others can adapt to :) -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 19:40:37 CET Temporary Marjolein @mmn probably extend it - doing a hack would just mean more headaches down the line ;-) -
Temporary Marjolein (mk)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 20:12:03 CET Temporary Marjolein @lnxw48 but, *local* subscribing certainly is part of the Twitter(-like) API, and even possible in the XMPP interface with a simple command. The problem is in remote subscription because it isn't a simple command to be matched to a single API call, but an OStatus process/dialog; I think that would take several API calls unless you 'wrap' it all up in a higher-level command - but then the user misses the 'confirmation' part of the process. (All of the…
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